BLM Main & Sub Stats

[Darkmage]

Ok, I see this more and more often. People saying hey, your a BLM, you should sub SMN!
Just wanna get this out here for the record:

At level 75, here's some stats, ok? (Base stats, no EQ, Fully level'd subjob, Race: Tarutaru)
BLM Subbing WHM:
HP: 779
MP: 922
STR: 47
DEX: 66
VIT: 52
AGI: 72
INT: 90
MND: 61
CHR: 65

Abilities:
Magic Defense up I - 10
Clear Mind - 20
Auto Regen - 25
Magic D. up II - 30
Clear Mind II - 35

BLM Subbing SMN:
HP: 741
MP: 970
STR: 45
DEX: 67
VIT: 50
AGI: 73
INT: 94
MND: 60
CHR: 66

Abilities:
Max MP up - 10
Clear Mind - 15
Resist Slow - 20
Auto Refresh - 25
Clear Mind II - 30
Max MP up II - 30


That's 48mp and 4 INT, the absolute BEST thing about subbing SMN is auto-refresh. So, to recap, you lose a great deal of flexibility and usefulness for 48mp, 4 int, and auto - refresh. To me, personally, it's simply not worth it. WHM Sub gets magic D up to go along with the BLM Magic Atk. up, The same clear mind boosts, and auto - regen. So I, personally, am going to stick with my WHM sub (I did consider the SMN sub, which is why I've done this research). Just thought I'd throw this out for every BLM looking at their sub options. And in the spirit of fairness, here is what comes with RDM sub.
BLM Subbing RDM:
HP: 797
MP: 903
STR: 47
DEX: 68
VIT: 51
AGI: 72
INT: 93
MND: 59
CHR: 63

Abilities:
Resist Petrify - 10
Fast Cast - 15
Magic Attack up I - 20
Magic D up I - 25
Resist Petrify - 25
Clear Mind - 31

While not as versatile as a WHM sub, I think RDM would be a better sub than SMN. Anyway, here's the stats, decide for yourself.

[Peti]

Good points, Darkmage. I agree, that whm is probably the best sub at 75.

But for lower levels, I believe /smn is a better choice. As I was leveling my blm from 25-30, I used a smn sub, and found it to be absolutely fantastic. The mp boost is more noticeable for that level, and the extra INT helps tremendously with resists, since every single digit makes a big impact when the numbers are lower. (In other words, the difference from 90-94 is no big deal, but from 18-20 is huge.)

As for /rdm... um, its not a very good blm sub, imo. Resist petrify isnt all that useful to a blm, the one extra mag. atk. up doesnt stack with the blm ones (nor do the clear minds), and rdm learns healing spells a lot later than a whm. Fast cast isn't worthwhile to a blm either.. If you cast to fast/often, you end up dead. Whm will provide a better mnd stat for your backup heals, and you also have access to the -na type spells (silena is marvelous, and would be available to a blm at 38). And dont forget Auto-regen, and Mag D up II.

This is a great post... but mp and int arent a big problem for tarutaru. Dark, do you think you could get the numbers for an elvaan, or galka even? They'd be the races with a harder choice to make..

[Darkmage]

All stats are with no equip, lvl 75 main and fully lvl'd sub

Black Mage Abilities:
Magic Attack Up I: 10
Clear Mind I: 15
Conserve MP: 20
Magic Attack Up II: 30
Clear Mind II: 30
Clear Mind III: 45
Magic Attack Up III: 50
Clear Mind IV: 60

Taru Sub WHM:
HP: 779
MP: 922
STR: 47
DEX: 66
VIT: 52
AGI: 72
INT: 90
MND: 61
CHR: 65

Abilities:
Magic Defense up I - 10
Clear Mind - 20
Auto Regen - 25
Magic D. up II - 30
Clear Mind II - 35

Taru Sub SMN:
HP: 741
MP: 970
STR: 45
DEX: 67
VIT: 50
AGI: 73
INT: 94
MND: 60
CHR: 66

Abilities:
Max MP up - 10
Clear Mind - 15
Resist Slow - 20
Auto Refresh - 25
Clear Mind II - 30
Max MP up II - 30

Taru Sub RDM:
HP: 797
MP: 903
STR: 47
DEX: 68
VIT: 51
AGI: 72
INT: 93
MND: 59
CHR: 63

Abilities:
Resist Petrify - 10
Fast Cast - 15
Magic Attack up I - 20
Magic D up I - 25
Resist Petrify - 25
Clear Mind - 31

Elvaan Sub WHM
HP: 1126
MP: 618
STR: 64
DEX: 63
VIT: 60
AGI: 59
INT: 68
MND: 73
CHR: 65

Elvaan Sub SMN
HP: 1088
MP: 666
STR: 62
DEX: 64
VIT: 58
AGI: 60
INT: 72
MND: 72
CHR: 66

Elvaan Sub RDM
HP: 1144
MP: 599
STR: 64
DEX: 65
VIT: 59
AGI: 59
INT: 71
MND: 71
CHR: 63

Mithra Sub WHM
HP: 1005
MP: 694
STR: 52
DEX: 80
VIT: 52
AGI: 76
INT: 76
MND: 61
CHR: 57

Mithra Sub SMN
HP: 967
MP: 742
STR: 50
DEX: 81
VIT: 50
AGI: 77
INT: 80
MND: 60
CHR: 58

Mithra Sub RDM
HP: 1023
MP: 675
STR: 52
DEX: 82
VIT: 51
AGI: 76
INT: 79
MND: 59
CHR: 55

Galkan Sub WHM
HP: 1277
MP: 503
STR: 60
DEX: 66
VIT: 69
AGI: 64
INT: 73
MND: 64
CHR: 57

Galkan Sub SMN
HP: 1239
MP: 551
STR: 58
DEX: 67
VIT: 67
AGI: 65
INT: 77
MND: 63
CHR: 58

Galkan Sub RDM
HP: 1295
MP: 484
STR: 60
DEX: 68
VIT: 68
AGI: 64
INT: 76
MND: 62
CHR: 55

Hume Sub WHM
HP: 1005
MP: 694
STR: 55
DEX: 66
VIT: 55
AGI: 67
INT: 76
MND: 64
CHR: 65

Hume Sub SMN
HP: 967
MP: 742
STR: 53
DEX: 67
VIT: 53
AGI: 68
INT: 80
MND: 63
CHR: 66

Hume Sub RDM
HP: 1023
MP: 675
STR: 55
DEX: 68
VIT: 54
AGI: 67
INT: 79
MND: 62
CHR: 63

How's that for ya?

[Peti]

well, thats not what I expected...
Its always a 48mp/4INT difference

But you can check out the stats for each race, and decide which would be better for you to have.

I also find it interesting that mithra and humes come out exactly even in the blm department hehe

elvaan blm/smn... 666mp

[Darkmage]

From what I've heard, the calculator I used for these stats isn't complete, It's stopped at lvl 59, because apparently at 60 the formulas change. I'll update when/if I can, but it still gives a good idea.